Comments on: This Month In Vogue : Sex In Magazines http://www.agreenertea.com/this-month-in-vogue-sex-in-magazines/ ...on aging with strength and beauty Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:18:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Christine Scaman http://www.agreenertea.com/this-month-in-vogue-sex-in-magazines/comment-page-1/#comment-536 Christine Scaman Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:35:15 +0000 http://www.agreenertea.com/?p=469#comment-536 Terrific question, Nanci, for two reasons. One is that is forces us to recognize the importance of the most immediate answer which is simply to talk about the problem, to admit that it exists, to speak to our daughters about the deeper implications and the price all women pay, and to demonstrate to them the courage to reject every one of those labels and self-defeating images. But also, asking a question is where the groundwork is laid for a solution. It begins conversations. From that comes awareness. Hopefully one day, young women will be thoughtful enough to spend their money elsewhere. Unfortunately, media's message that they should strive to look and behave in that way to attract a mate is a strong one. At our age, we know it's a load of B.S. It was then and it is now. Terrific question, Nanci, for two reasons. One is that is forces us to recognize the importance of the most immediate answer which is simply to talk about the problem, to admit that it exists, to speak to our daughters about the deeper implications and the price all women pay, and to demonstrate to them the courage to reject every one of those labels and self-defeating images.
But also, asking a question is where the groundwork is laid for a solution. It begins conversations. From that comes awareness. Hopefully one day, young women will be thoughtful enough to spend their money elsewhere. Unfortunately, media’s message that they should strive to look and behave in that way to attract a mate is a strong one.
At our age, we know it’s a load of B.S. It was then and it is now.

]]> By: Nanci Ross http://www.agreenertea.com/this-month-in-vogue-sex-in-magazines/comment-page-1/#comment-533 Nanci Ross Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:32:55 +0000 http://www.agreenertea.com/?p=469#comment-533 Occasionally I am 'compted' w/ copies of Cosmo. 'Someone' decided years ago that my now defunct shop was a beauty salon....Six years ago or so, I saved these for my daughter-for fashion ideas...now I dispatch them to the trashbin where they belong. Soft porn? More like hard core dos for sluts. While we decry this level of degradation, what can be done? How do we educate our young women to reject this mentality? Why does the first amendment apply to morals we reject and not to support of those we do? Occasionally I am ‘compted’ w/ copies of Cosmo. ‘Someone’ decided years ago that my now defunct shop was a beauty salon….Six years ago or so, I saved these for my daughter-for fashion ideas…now I dispatch them to the trashbin where they belong. Soft porn? More like hard core dos for sluts.
While we decry this level of degradation, what can be done?
How do we educate our young women to reject this mentality? Why does the first amendment apply to morals we reject and not to support of those we do?

]]> By: Why Do You Want To Look Younger? : A Greener Tea http://www.agreenertea.com/this-month-in-vogue-sex-in-magazines/comment-page-1/#comment-500 Why Do You Want To Look Younger? : A Greener Tea Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:44:04 +0000 http://www.agreenertea.com/?p=469#comment-500 [...] wrote a great comment at the end of the article This Month in Vogue : Sex in Magazines . She questioned why young girls today try so hard to be seen as sex objects. I define a sex object [...] [...] wrote a great comment at the end of the article This Month in Vogue : Sex in Magazines . She questioned why young girls today try so hard to be seen as sex objects. I define a sex object [...]

]]> By: Christine Scaman http://www.agreenertea.com/this-month-in-vogue-sex-in-magazines/comment-page-1/#comment-461 Christine Scaman Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:27:40 +0000 http://www.agreenertea.com/?p=469#comment-461 Well said, Barbara. We are not what the media portrays us to be, nor do we want what media says we want. And our husbands are grateful for it ... well, most of the time. There really are men who live in the real world, just as there are women, like us, who do. Well said, Barbara.
We are not what the media portrays us to be, nor do we want what media says we want. And our husbands are grateful for it … well, most of the time. There really are men who live in the real world, just as there are women, like us, who do.

]]> By: Barbara Durso http://www.agreenertea.com/this-month-in-vogue-sex-in-magazines/comment-page-1/#comment-460 Barbara Durso Mon, 16 Jun 2008 01:51:46 +0000 http://www.agreenertea.com/?p=469#comment-460 You are right on target. I don't buy very many magazines and the ones I do buy are about decorating or cooking. My husband and I have been happily married for over 20 years, and yes, I frequently go sleep elsewhere because he snores and I have a bum knee that keeps me up at night. Somewhere in there, I've figured out that "sexy" as defined by the media has little to do with real life. I think my husband is sexy because he cooks and gardens and cleans and grocery shops and watches the kids, and he thinks I'm sexy because ... he thinks I'm sexy! You are right on target. I don’t buy very many magazines and the ones I do buy are about decorating or cooking. My husband and I have been happily married for over 20 years, and yes, I frequently go sleep elsewhere because he snores and I have a bum knee that keeps me up at night. Somewhere in there, I’ve figured out that “sexy” as defined by the media has little to do with real life. I think my husband is sexy because he cooks and gardens and cleans and grocery shops and watches the kids, and he thinks I’m sexy because … he thinks I’m sexy!

]]> By: Christine Scaman http://www.agreenertea.com/this-month-in-vogue-sex-in-magazines/comment-page-1/#comment-452 Christine Scaman Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:22:18 +0000 http://www.agreenertea.com/?p=469#comment-452 Mary - excellent comment. So if a sex object is defined as someone who is wanted for sex but not for any other attribute of her character, in fact her character is entirely disposable, I agree with you. We might have been sex objects by that definition in the mind of the guys, in fact I know that we were, but it was not that way in our minds. Were we naive? It is sad that young women alter their bodies so drastically to please young men. Why is their desperation so great that they can't see that any man worth having wouldn't care? As Randy Travis said, "I ain't in love with your hair". I think it points to the importance of self-esteem in young girls and of understanding where the value of human character and relationships lies. Mary – excellent comment. So if a sex object is defined as someone who is wanted for sex but not for any other attribute of her character, in fact her character is entirely disposable, I agree with you. We might have been sex objects by that definition in the mind of the guys, in fact I know that we were, but it was not that way in our minds. Were we naive?
It is sad that young women alter their bodies so drastically to please young men. Why is their desperation so great that they can’t see that any man worth having wouldn’t care? As Randy Travis said, “I ain’t in love with your hair”. I think it points to the importance of self-esteem in young girls and of understanding where the value of human character and relationships lies.

]]> By: Mary http://www.agreenertea.com/this-month-in-vogue-sex-in-magazines/comment-page-1/#comment-450 Mary Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:59:32 +0000 http://www.agreenertea.com/?p=469#comment-450 I rarely buy women's magazines anymore. Surprises me, in a way, as I bought them avidly in my 20's and 30's. In my 40's I started tapering off. These days "Real Simple" is the only one I buy consistently. At least their fashion and beauty articles feature clothes I might actually wear, and advice I might actually use. What puzzles me most is how badly (really badly) young women want to be seen as "sex objects" now. I'm 53, and back in the 70's, sure we wanted guys to find us attractive and yes, sexy. We still do---lol. But I don't think we wanted to sex objects, per se. It seems different now. Young women with perfectly adequate endowments routinely getting breast implants, so they can do what? Work a stripper pole? What happened to the idea of accepting oneself, and going from there? Play up the assets, downplay the less than great, and get on with life. Ah well.... I rarely buy women’s magazines anymore. Surprises me, in a way, as I bought them avidly in my 20’s and 30’s. In my 40’s I started tapering off. These days “Real Simple” is the only one I buy consistently. At least their fashion and beauty articles feature clothes I might actually wear, and advice I might actually use.

What puzzles me most is how badly (really badly) young women want to be seen as “sex objects” now. I’m 53, and back in the 70’s, sure we wanted guys to find us attractive and yes, sexy. We still do—lol. But I don’t think we wanted to sex objects, per se. It seems different now. Young women with perfectly adequate endowments routinely getting breast implants, so they can do what? Work a stripper pole? What happened to the idea of accepting oneself, and going from there? Play up the assets, downplay the less than great, and get on with life.

Ah well….

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