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		<title>By: gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly how did I miss this!!! I am pathetic..good grief!
Where to start...yes ...I had an IUD after Alex was born ..had it for about hmmmm 3 years I think. No problems with insertion did not even feel it going in. Course I had had two children. Periods I was told would be heavy with major cramping. I had the reverse. Best periods I ever experienced in flow and duration with no cramping.  It was removed as painlessly and I did not have another inserted. Think I was assuming that as far as birth control was concerned (and that was the reason I had it inserted) perhaps someone else should be doing something.  :) Tried the pill when &#039;no one else&#039; stepped up and felt as you did... nauseated and inguinal pain, not sure where that came from, so stopped that and said, &quot;Well I&#039;m done here, your turn!&quot; And time went on until last year when this all happened and the flood began.
Just finished another period that was my regular 4 to 5 days of heavy and light combo.  Have them about every 14-19 days until like I said in the other comment had nothing since September 9.
There are times when I almost consider iron supplements but the only time I did succumb to those was during pregnancy and they wreak such havoc on my intestines that it is just intolerable. More spinach, pate and whatever else I can eat and I manage. They did tell me though the last time I gave blood that I needed to watch it or I would not be able to give again.
The IUD was never suggested to me. My estrogen level was taken as my GP wanted a benchmark to go from. My GYN, who, by the way, did my pelvic exam while I was bleeding and here I was under the impression that PAP smears could not be done while on your period, said everything was normal on exam but followed up with the ultrasound where he identified polyps. Gee who knew. I have lumps everywhere as I am fibrocystic as well. Enough mammograms and ultrasounds there to go round.
So I am most interested in this Mirena. God no period how wonderful that would be. I remember this past February driving to Fredericton and feeling this warmth and had to wrap an extra coat around me as I ran into a washroom at the first gas station I found. Completely soaked underwear, jeans , jacket and the car seat. Luvly. This with a pad and a tampon in just changed an hour earlier. Ahh  yes menopause. But as my mother tells me what doesn&#039;t kill ya makes ya stronger.  
Have had friends who have had the hysterectomy as I mentioned and say it was the absolute best thing that ever happened to them and wondered why they waited so long. Mom also says what do you need it for anyway. It will shrivel up eventually ...let them suck it out of you now. Have to smile at her as she is 87 and has absolutely no filter but then she actually never did :)
We must chat you and I.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly how did I miss this!!! I am pathetic..good grief!<br />
Where to start&#8230;yes &#8230;I had an IUD after Alex was born ..had it for about hmmmm 3 years I think. No problems with insertion did not even feel it going in. Course I had had two children. Periods I was told would be heavy with major cramping. I had the reverse. Best periods I ever experienced in flow and duration with no cramping.  It was removed as painlessly and I did not have another inserted. Think I was assuming that as far as birth control was concerned (and that was the reason I had it inserted) perhaps someone else should be doing something.  <img src='http://www.agreenertea.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Tried the pill when &#8216;no one else&#8217; stepped up and felt as you did&#8230; nauseated and inguinal pain, not sure where that came from, so stopped that and said, &#8220;Well I&#8217;m done here, your turn!&#8221; And time went on until last year when this all happened and the flood began.<br />
Just finished another period that was my regular 4 to 5 days of heavy and light combo.  Have them about every 14-19 days until like I said in the other comment had nothing since September 9.<br />
There are times when I almost consider iron supplements but the only time I did succumb to those was during pregnancy and they wreak such havoc on my intestines that it is just intolerable. More spinach, pate and whatever else I can eat and I manage. They did tell me though the last time I gave blood that I needed to watch it or I would not be able to give again.<br />
The IUD was never suggested to me. My estrogen level was taken as my GP wanted a benchmark to go from. My GYN, who, by the way, did my pelvic exam while I was bleeding and here I was under the impression that PAP smears could not be done while on your period, said everything was normal on exam but followed up with the ultrasound where he identified polyps. Gee who knew. I have lumps everywhere as I am fibrocystic as well. Enough mammograms and ultrasounds there to go round.<br />
So I am most interested in this Mirena. God no period how wonderful that would be. I remember this past February driving to Fredericton and feeling this warmth and had to wrap an extra coat around me as I ran into a washroom at the first gas station I found. Completely soaked underwear, jeans , jacket and the car seat. Luvly. This with a pad and a tampon in just changed an hour earlier. Ahh  yes menopause. But as my mother tells me what doesn&#8217;t kill ya makes ya stronger.<br />
Have had friends who have had the hysterectomy as I mentioned and say it was the absolute best thing that ever happened to them and wondered why they waited so long. Mom also says what do you need it for anyway. It will shrivel up eventually &#8230;let them suck it out of you now. Have to smile at her as she is 87 and has absolutely no filter but then she actually never did <img src='http://www.agreenertea.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
We must chat you and I.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Scaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine Scaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taji,

I think that your experiences will one day be my own. I have a whole new sensitivity to the &quot;stuck pig&quot; description, believe me. And black pants, definitely (Value Village is coming in very handy here). And checking the chair behind you when you get up. So far it&#039;s just been a huge messy headache. 

I&#039;m extremely grateful that I&#039;m not in any pain...though that may all change once this IUD is in ( in 3 weeks. Turns out I don&#039;t have cancer).

Of the many aspects of menopause that you hear about, cycles without ovulations was a new one for me, and yet, it&#039;s probably the most common problem of all. Maybe that&#039;s what was happening to all those women who complained of extremely heavy bleeding some months but not others.  I wonder what they did in the old days - probably put leeches on them and bled them some more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taji,</p>
<p>I think that your experiences will one day be my own. I have a whole new sensitivity to the &#8220;stuck pig&#8221; description, believe me. And black pants, definitely (Value Village is coming in very handy here). And checking the chair behind you when you get up. So far it&#8217;s just been a huge messy headache. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m extremely grateful that I&#8217;m not in any pain&#8230;though that may all change once this IUD is in ( in 3 weeks. Turns out I don&#8217;t have cancer).</p>
<p>Of the many aspects of menopause that you hear about, cycles without ovulations was a new one for me, and yet, it&#8217;s probably the most common problem of all. Maybe that&#8217;s what was happening to all those women who complained of extremely heavy bleeding some months but not others.  I wonder what they did in the old days &#8211; probably put leeches on them and bled them some more!</p>
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		<title>By: Taji</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christine----I hope you are feeling better. I managed to delay hysterectomy for a year and a half with acupuncture------if you have access  to a good one. He stimulated my kidneys---which after a while i figured out it was the adrenals and also more erythropoetin (hormone that stimulates blood cell growth) production. I did have fibroids and eventually had the hysterectomy but kept my ovaries. The treatments kept my hemoglobin up. My description of the bleeding was &quot; like a stuck pig&quot; which maybe is not funny to you as a veterinarian. And the wearing black pants all the time----trying not to be messy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christine&#8212;-I hope you are feeling better. I managed to delay hysterectomy for a year and a half with acupuncture&#8212;&#8212;if you have access  to a good one. He stimulated my kidneys&#8212;which after a while i figured out it was the adrenals and also more erythropoetin (hormone that stimulates blood cell growth) production. I did have fibroids and eventually had the hysterectomy but kept my ovaries. The treatments kept my hemoglobin up. My description of the bleeding was &#8221; like a stuck pig&#8221; which maybe is not funny to you as a veterinarian. And the wearing black pants all the time&#8212;-trying not to be messy.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Scaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine Scaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linda,

It seems that hysterectomies are postponed till no other option exists. They sure don&#039;t rush into them, at least here in Ontario.  

Having said that, I&#039;m not one bit averse to the idea. In fact, if last week&#039;s biopsy turns out to be cancer (report back in 2 days), then that&#039;s exactly what will happen.

The thing is, I have no discomfort. Never have.

I don&#039;t understand why you were automatically put on HRT after your periods ended? Is it because you were so young? Or did you have hot flashes, or other signs where estrogen supplementation might help?

Interestingly, as I wrote in a comment on the &quot;What&#039;s a Mirena IUD? &quot; post, I noticed 2 groups of women who talked about the IUD side effects. Bad news in the young, much better in older women.

I noticed another trend - that women who took HRT loved, and wished they&#039;d stayed on it once it was discontinued. When you look at actual statistics ( I&#039;ll post the site when I find it again) for side effects, it&#039;s not really very high. These hormone fears are just trends in medications, not without justification. It&#039;s different now from 5 years ago, and will change again.

Physicians probably do see more breast cancer now than in our mother&#039;s years and the biggest social causal factor is of course the advent of the Pill, so there&#039;s something to this. But the microdose pills will hopefully impact those numbers in a positive way for our daughters.

Cathy,

Thank you. I&#039;m so happy to be getting so many positive reports from older women. I&#039;m going to go with the IUD and feel much more comfortable with that decision, thanks to all the women who have spoken well of it.

It&#039;s fascinating to me how different we are at our stage of life from 25 years ago. We respond to food and medication differently, we look better in different makeup, we identify with different advertising. We so need to find information for our age group, because we are distinct, just as teenagers are distinct from 30 year olds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda,</p>
<p>It seems that hysterectomies are postponed till no other option exists. They sure don&#8217;t rush into them, at least here in Ontario.  </p>
<p>Having said that, I&#8217;m not one bit averse to the idea. In fact, if last week&#8217;s biopsy turns out to be cancer (report back in 2 days), then that&#8217;s exactly what will happen.</p>
<p>The thing is, I have no discomfort. Never have.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why you were automatically put on HRT after your periods ended? Is it because you were so young? Or did you have hot flashes, or other signs where estrogen supplementation might help?</p>
<p>Interestingly, as I wrote in a comment on the &#8220;What&#8217;s a Mirena IUD? &#8221; post, I noticed 2 groups of women who talked about the IUD side effects. Bad news in the young, much better in older women.</p>
<p>I noticed another trend &#8211; that women who took HRT loved, and wished they&#8217;d stayed on it once it was discontinued. When you look at actual statistics ( I&#8217;ll post the site when I find it again) for side effects, it&#8217;s not really very high. These hormone fears are just trends in medications, not without justification. It&#8217;s different now from 5 years ago, and will change again.</p>
<p>Physicians probably do see more breast cancer now than in our mother&#8217;s years and the biggest social causal factor is of course the advent of the Pill, so there&#8217;s something to this. But the microdose pills will hopefully impact those numbers in a positive way for our daughters.</p>
<p>Cathy,</p>
<p>Thank you. I&#8217;m so happy to be getting so many positive reports from older women. I&#8217;m going to go with the IUD and feel much more comfortable with that decision, thanks to all the women who have spoken well of it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fascinating to me how different we are at our stage of life from 25 years ago. We respond to food and medication differently, we look better in different makeup, we identify with different advertising. We so need to find information for our age group, because we are distinct, just as teenagers are distinct from 30 year olds.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Christine,
For many years i took BCPs and lived 3days of every month completely at the mercy of my period.  I thought it was normal.   Two years ago i switched to the Mirena.  I am so glad i did.  I am relieved (at 44) to have significantly decreased the hormone intake.  But most significantly i have those 3 days a month back.  The bleeding is greatly reduced (but i am glad i still have some or i would be spending a fortune on pregnancy tests!).  I continue to experience what i describe as a heaviness for a couple days a month but nothing like the pain and cramping pre-mirena.  I hope the option that you choose works as well for you as the Mirena did for me. 
C</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Christine,<br />
For many years i took BCPs and lived 3days of every month completely at the mercy of my period.  I thought it was normal.   Two years ago i switched to the Mirena.  I am so glad i did.  I am relieved (at 44) to have significantly decreased the hormone intake.  But most significantly i have those 3 days a month back.  The bleeding is greatly reduced (but i am glad i still have some or i would be spending a fortune on pregnancy tests!).  I continue to experience what i describe as a heaviness for a couple days a month but nothing like the pain and cramping pre-mirena.  I hope the option that you choose works as well for you as the Mirena did for me.<br />
C</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris:

Have you considered a hysterectomy?  I am 56 yrs. old.  I finally got one 3 years ago, after going thru years of agony .  

My last period was at age 42, and I was immediately put on HRT. I was grateful for the respite, and I continue HRT to this day.   When my Gyn discovered (benign) fibroid tumors growing on the outside of my uterus, he suggested a full hysterectomy.  His kindly intended comment was &quot;Why would you want to keep it?&quot;

Should have done it years ago.  I am still the woman I have always been, just freer, with less pain, embarassment  and aggravation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris:</p>
<p>Have you considered a hysterectomy?  I am 56 yrs. old.  I finally got one 3 years ago, after going thru years of agony .  </p>
<p>My last period was at age 42, and I was immediately put on HRT. I was grateful for the respite, and I continue HRT to this day.   When my Gyn discovered (benign) fibroid tumors growing on the outside of my uterus, he suggested a full hysterectomy.  His kindly intended comment was &#8220;Why would you want to keep it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Should have done it years ago.  I am still the woman I have always been, just freer, with less pain, embarassment  and aggravation.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Scaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine Scaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie,
Thanks for the good wishes. It&#039; ll sort itself, I&#039;m sure. I&#039;ve learned a lot about it in the last 2 weeks. It&#039;s such a big topic and affects every single woman alive, and yet you hear nothing about it till it&#039;s happening to you. Odd.

Patrick,
Maybe I&#039;ve been writing the wrong things.
I could tell everyone about how I can pick maggots out of an eye socket and eat lunch with the other hand. But no, that skill is common among all veterinarians. That&#039;s why we have such good stories at parties!

Donna,
That&#039;s exactly what I was hoping to hear. Surely they insert thousands of these things. You always only hear the bad things, no matter what the topic. I figured there must be some women out there who do well with these IUD&#039;s. It certainly sounds like a very good solution if it works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie,<br />
Thanks for the good wishes. It&#8217; ll sort itself, I&#8217;m sure. I&#8217;ve learned a lot about it in the last 2 weeks. It&#8217;s such a big topic and affects every single woman alive, and yet you hear nothing about it till it&#8217;s happening to you. Odd.</p>
<p>Patrick,<br />
Maybe I&#8217;ve been writing the wrong things.<br />
I could tell everyone about how I can pick maggots out of an eye socket and eat lunch with the other hand. But no, that skill is common among all veterinarians. That&#8217;s why we have such good stories at parties!</p>
<p>Donna,<br />
That&#8217;s exactly what I was hoping to hear. Surely they insert thousands of these things. You always only hear the bad things, no matter what the topic. I figured there must be some women out there who do well with these IUD&#8217;s. It certainly sounds like a very good solution if it works.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christine, 

You have my prayers. 

I can share with you my experience of 10+ years of IUD use. I haven&#039;t had the &#039;brand&#039; you are considering and I had mine for birth control.  

The insertion is a bit uncomfortable and I had cramping on the way home and the same for the removal. Nothing that a few Ibuprophen didn&#039;t handle.  

I had a few months with spotting, very light, only in the beginning. My periods were normal for me. Nothing as heavy as you&#039;ve described nor for more than 5 days. I loved the freedom it gave me. I no longer have an IUD because I no longer have a uterus..I had a lvl 3 prolapse and other complications that required removal in the spring of &#039;04. 

I hope you find the right method for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christine, </p>
<p>You have my prayers. </p>
<p>I can share with you my experience of 10+ years of IUD use. I haven&#8217;t had the &#8216;brand&#8217; you are considering and I had mine for birth control.  </p>
<p>The insertion is a bit uncomfortable and I had cramping on the way home and the same for the removal. Nothing that a few Ibuprophen didn&#8217;t handle.  </p>
<p>I had a few months with spotting, very light, only in the beginning. My periods were normal for me. Nothing as heavy as you&#8217;ve described nor for more than 5 days. I loved the freedom it gave me. I no longer have an IUD because I no longer have a uterus..I had a lvl 3 prolapse and other complications that required removal in the spring of &#8217;04. </p>
<p>I hope you find the right method for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Mason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris I hope you are feeling better soon!   Odd to get the details on your blog.  For those of your readers who think you live in a bubble, keep writing as they obviously don&#039;t know you yet.

http://www.socialmedia404.com/?p=675</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris I hope you are feeling better soon!   Odd to get the details on your blog.  For those of your readers who think you live in a bubble, keep writing as they obviously don&#8217;t know you yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Family update &#124; SocialMedia404</title>
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		<dc:creator>Family update &#124; SocialMedia404</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Julie LaPoint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie LaPoint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have any experience with the options you have - just hope that one of them works and you&#039;re back to normal soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have any experience with the options you have &#8211; just hope that one of them works and you&#8217;re back to normal soon!</p>
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